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Fly on Pence's head 'historically a mark of the devil'

Steve Schmidt: Fly on Pence's head 'historically a mark of the devil


Steve Schmidt, a co-founder of the anti-Trump Lincoln Project, declared that a fly that landed on Vice President Pence during Wednesday night's debate "is always seen as a mark of the devil," drawing mockery on social media.

"I don't think it's ever a good sign when a fly lands on your head for two minutes," the MSNBC contributor, who managed the late Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential run, said during post-debate coverage on the network early Thursday.

"That's a sign all through history of sin, and historically, biblically, maybe you wouldn't normally say this — it’s only safe to say this after midnight ... but a fly, he who commands the fly is always seen historically as a mark of the devil," Schmidt added.

Host Ari Melber chuckled at the comment before asking Schmidt to confirm that he was joking and noting that the fly could have landed on anyone.

"But it didn’t. It landed on Mike Pence. And it says something, maybe something karmic about the status of the campaign as it implodes," Schmidt said, appearing to be serious.

"On the fact check, what Steve Schmidt has said about the [polling] numbers is true. What he said about the ultimate moral reckoning of whether the fly connotes evil or devil or Nosferatu is above my pay grade. But I can’t confirm it," Melber said in response.

Schmidt's perspective quickly sparked reaction on social media.

The Biden campaign seized on the viral moment, raising funds by selling fly swatters.

The cost of the swatters, which the campaign said swat away "flies and lies," was $10. They were listed as sold out on the campaign's website as of Thursday morning.

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